Government is trying to rid the Border Patrols so it can become one nation with Mexico and Canada. It is the goal of the government to get rid of the border. Check out the new DVD that explains why congress is refusing to protect our borders even 6 years after the devastating impact of 9/11 movie is “Endgame: Blueprint for Global Enslavement” available at netflix

Government is trying to rid the Border Patrols by imprisoning them so it can become one nation with Mexico and Canada. It is the goal of the government to get rid of the border. Check out the new DVD that explains why congress is refusing to protect our borders even 6 years after the devastating impact of 9/11 movie is “Endgame: Blueprint for Global Enslavement” available at netflix

Adam,

Thank you for your intrest in our border security mission and the recent trip to our Border Patrol Sector. The story was well done and provided a rare glimpse into the inherent dangers that my agents face each and every day protecting America. Keep up the great work and visit us again soon.

Very Respectfully,

Mike Fisher
Chief Patrol Agent
San Diego Sector
U.S. Border Patrol

Adam,
on behalf of the men and women that I work with, thank you for your efforts to shed light on the border and inspire dialogue.

Jim

I cannot believe how one comment is suddenly the gospel here. Our own economy is on the verge of collapse, then what we will have our own internal strife with hungry, cold, stupid people.
Let the border guards do what the majority of Americans want and discourage and slow down the trafficking as much as possible. We really need/want what they are doing and more.

“Adam-’While your plan would possibly accomplish your opinion on illegal immigration, institution it would be impossible. It would be tied up in American courts and/or with American lawmakers.’

Until we make a reason to entice their departure there’ll be a problem.
I know my idea was too extreme but had hoped someone -with more smarts than me- might have some input on such a way.
Obviously, a plan to remove the incentive to come here is needed but then again, thats not how we’re fighting our ‘War on Drugs”.
As long as there’s a market for the goods or services…blah, blah..
Thanks for your input.

Check this out..
a serial child rapist caught…

an illegal alien…..

oh but don’t ask Hillary…… as she said in Las Vegas….there is no illegal woman or illegal man.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,322416,00.html

Adam
Why could we not build a huge wall around our border? Like the Great Wall of China. Has any one in our government ever taken a serious look at this question? Do you think it would go against our beliefs in this country to live in a “free” environment? I am not suggesting holding any one in our country from leaving, but illegal trespassers out. I think we should welcome people that are going through our legal channels of becoming a citizen, but not the people that flee across the line. The other comment that I want to make is: How do these people live here that come across the border? How do they rent a place to stay or get a vehicle etc. with no ID or social security card? Maybe I live in a sheltered environment here in Chattanooga (although we do have a large population of illegal people working in the carpet mills near here in Dalton, GA) but ever where that I have tried to live or buy a car requires some sort of ID.

There would be a giant difference between a wall built between the USA & Mexico and the Berlin Wall……

……..the Berlin Wall was built to keep the Communist Government’s Citizens in their country….the wall on our southern border would be built to keep other countries citizens OUT of our country…….

Not one citizen or legal resident of this country should have to go hungry, be denied a job, education or government benefits because an illegal is getting any of those benefits.

The illegals should not EVER have the same rights that I have.

The only rational solution is to first INVITE all illegals to return to their original country voluntarily and do it with the whole family and all their money & property. Those that choose to stay and take their chances should then be apprehended and sent to Deportation Centers. Where their cases can be decided in a Quick & Speedy Process. Then deported to their country of origin.

Those that have stayed should have their property & funds seized in order to finance their sheltering while awaiting a Deportation Hearing and to send them (& their families) back to their country of origin.

Deportation Centers could be set up at former Military Bases that have been closed by the Pentagon & Congress, thus the facilities would already be available for housing & security and even transportation via aircraft/runways/etc.

Just as the United States cannot be the World Police Force, we cannot take the total number of refugees, undesireables and unwanted of the entire world.

SJB

Wow….
I feel in my heart that we are losing our country…

This will not be the same place I grew up in… in the next 20 years…
so sad…

with all the jobs being outsourced … all the illegals …. *shakes head*

all I can do is pray for our country and for our lawmakers to do the right thing.

We should’ve built a wall across the southern border just like they had in Berlin … with snipers and sharpshooters taking out anybody who tried to take their skanky asps across the border illegally …

Not all those who cross illegally are from Mexico … A LOT are from Guatemala …

I’m not a racist, I am a patriotic American …

BUT …

I used to work at a company in Los Angeles that had absolutely NO PROBLEM with knowingly hiring illegal aliens … They also hired “white” people to the “face” & “voice” of the company … The illegals got paid the SAME amount as the “whites” … Though, they got paid in cash (so they had no deductions from their pay) … The illegals (as well as the legal employees of Hispanic descent) were treated BETTER than the whites because the owners were Sephardic Jews (the ones that the muslims started kicking out of Spain in the 1100s-1200s & later) … The owners would talk to the hispanics in Spanish, even though they all spoke English … Some of the illegals were from Mexico & some were from Guatemala … If something went wrong with the clientele, it was the whites that would always have to “fix” the mess & placate the clientele … When disgruntled employees would call the Feds, they’d just scoff it off … We tried INS (immigration & naturalization service) & they didn’t care … We tried the IRS because the owners kept 2 sets of books & the IRS didn’t care … Heck, LAPD didn’t even care and some were regular clientele (& 1 officer was even married to an employee) …

There was one ironic thing - 2 of the illegals looked down on the others (Those two were actually much better educated than the others - Even more surprising was they spoke better English than people born here in the US - They didn’t even really have an accent either) … It was strange to see basically a class warfare between illegals (even from the same country) …

Oh, and my point, in that rather long post:

The only citizens born in the USA are those born to citizens and legal immigrants.

I recently saw the 14th Amendment was cited as the reason children of illegals are immediately allowed citizenship. The reason, is the interpretation has been extended from its original meaning. The Bill of Rights and original Constitution made no provision for immediate citizenship.

The portion of the amendment which could be challenged, is the “and of the State wherein they RESIDE”. The word “reside” is not defined. But, could a woman entering the country simply to give birth really be a resident of the state?

Consider this, a person from one state who elects to attend college in another state is required to pay “out of state tuition”. However, this same person can elect to establish “residency”, but this usually requires “living in the state a minimum of 6 months - and most are 1 year!

And, how do they establish “residency”? The usual requirements are: show a legal address on your drivers license issued in the state in which you are seeking residence, have your vehicle registered in that state, show valid employment - i.e. pay stubs, tax forms.

So, again, why do illegal aliens (they are not immigrants, in my mind) get a pass on these rules?

Below is just the first portion of the 14th Amendment - the one cited by all as to why a child born here is “entitled” to be an immediate citizen.

Amendment 14 - Citizenship Rights. Ratified 7/9/1868. Note History

1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

What was the purpose of the 14th Amendment?

The 14th was designed to ensure that all former slaves were granted automatic United States citizenship, and that they would have all the rights and privileges as any other citizen. The amendment passed Congress on June 13, 1866, and was ratified on July 9, 1868

source of above: http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html

Junesse says: Helping the poor doesn’t mean you have to help them break the law.

I say: Amen.

John–Everybody likes to comment on the news when it pertains to Animals.
Look at the tiger threads too…ha

Aritha-That’s a pitiful story.

Terri- Next stop Grassfire.

Immigration Si !!! Illegal No !!!

I question why it is so impossible to deport some 10 million illegals? Recent studies have shown that a computation of the continued support of the illegals from all government & private resources (diverted from legal residents and citizens) would far surpass the cost of the deportation of the same number of people.

The recent prosecutions & disciplinary actions against our Officers & Agents on the Border have been widely publicized in Latin America. The publicity has only emboldened those Latinos wanting to cross the border illegally. They would like nothing better than to cause further ‘embarassment’ to the USA, the Border Patrol, etc. in order to cause more and more controversy and confusion on the part of the citizens and leaders in the US.

The fact that we have over-zealous Federal Prosecutors that appear to be acting at the behest of our sitting (on his hands) President, does nothing to dissuade the potential illegals from trying to cause an “international” incident.

There is also the ‘back’ story regarding the apparent groundwork being laid for a North American Union similar to the European Union…..with Open Borders, a common currency (the Amero) and a usurping of National Sovereignty and the US Constitution.

I am seriously worried that this nation will not resemble anything like what I grew up to love, respect & serve.

SJB

I do agree that Fox has been wonderful about reporting on border issues.

Adam………..I’m not “dissing” (susan’s new favorite word) you, or FOX for what you decide to cover. All news should be reported so we the viewers get to see and decide. I’m just observing an interesting trend in our society and getting my two cents worth……………….got change for a nickle?

Donny………Glenn Beck had a Texas sherrif on his show some time ago that said the same thing. Apparently these Mexican troops are going to stores and truck stops inside the US to re-supply their units that are stationed along the TEX/MEX border with food and water. IMO, that’s yet another sign that the Mexican government is incapable of running it’s country………..I mean if they can’t even supply their own troops with basic necessities, how are they going to control the smuggling of drugs and illegals across the border? Just think of the morale problems they must be incurring.

Mexican soldiers found invading United States
Government report documents dozens of armed campaigns in Texas, Arizona

worldnetdaily.com has an article about over 140 incursions into the US by Mexican soldiers and police.

Comment by John
January 11th, 2008 at 7:05 pm

John… sadly…
there would be even more comments to posts about Britney… Lindsay etc…

not enough people care about what is REALLY going on in America …

they care more about Hollyweird peeps, and seems like Drew P, too.

Don’t forget guys and gals we need to mention the 14th Amendment that gives illegal children the American benefits. Let me tell you a story here..in Kentucky….I have worked in restaurants for 15 years and we all know you can’t go into a restaurant these days without being overwhelmed with illegals…well around here anyway…..Young illegal girl (20) pregnant with her 4th child….3 other children were born here in the USA …after the birth of the 3rd child she decided she was going back to Mexico……waited for kids passports (ended up staying longer then planned cause it took longer to get their passports) went back home to Mexico..about 4 months later she showed back up at work again and again she was pregnant….. I asked her if she went “home’ and she said yes..I asked how her kids were and she stated they were still in Mexicco with her family…I asked hy she came back…so she could have her baby here…….ok here comes the best part….For this company I was a shift manager..I had access to the office and all employee files….This girl came into work one day while I was on duty and she handed me a paper from the dept. of family and children…..She needed it filled out so she cold get medical and social benfits while she was pregnant….i laid in on the desk and DID NOT fax it to the home office…..The next day I returned to work and I foound the paper again laying on the desk…I was looking at it and noticed on the spot where list
“the members of your family in your home” the kids name that were still in mexico were listed on there as well..I told the manager about our conversation (he knows she is illegal…don’t doubt for one second) he took the paper and faxed it knowing she was committing fraud and told me that it isn’t my place to police the illegals. Unless we stoop it at the employers it isn’t going to stop along with social programs and schools.

PS….I don’t work for company anymore

Wan’na know what’s wrong with America?

As of 6:50pm EST, there have been 240 posts here in about a 24 hour period, dealing with a subject matter that some people are calling a major problem and maybe the most important issue we’ve had to deal with in modern times………immigration policy and reform.

In a 4 hour period, on the same blog, the plight of one 60 something retired footbal player/actor has earned 294 posts.

In the words of Donny Baker…….”Man that’s bad ass!!!”

Adam said “don’t see how it is feasible to try and deport up to 10 million people or more, it would be impossible.”

We have to make them WANT to leave.
How?
We pass a law:
“In 90 days, any illegal person(s) residing in the USA will have all their possessions taken and will be jailed for 1 year, in the desert, in a tent city.
The possessions will be sold to pay for their cost to feed, house and provide the most basic health care.
Children will accompany their parents in the tent cities.
Upon release, they will be taken back to their home country.
2nd offense will result in 5 years, 3rd for 10″

Or something like that…IF we’re serious.

You can go to Grassfire.org to get different versions of letters…
and you can get the fax numbers.

Pay the Mexican Military to patrol our border. Pay a bounty on illegals, drug runners and coyotes for each capture.
Not only will they use deadly force, but no one will call it a problem.

Bob L.. you are spot on.

I just got this from Grassfire ~ they want us to fax or email the Presidential Candidates. You can get fax numbers from Grassfire.

We are a nation of laws-not lawlessness. We are a nation of order-not chaos. I implore you to use your platform to call for real border security and no amnesty for the illegal aliens who are threatening our nation with their unlawful invasion.

Americans aren’t fooled by the amnesty double-speak. Americans want strict border security and no amnesty. It would be a wise candidate that used his/her platform to embrace real border security.

I simply cannot support, nor will I tolerate any candidate who refuses to listen to the voice of the people. True border security-without an amnesty is the only option, and I urge you to publicly champion such a measure.

Freedom isn’t free, just ask any one of the 416,800 G I’s buried in Europe. So with that being said and rumors of Mexico Invading America may I suggest that every able bodied Mexican national male or female over the age of 18 make an attempt to take back your country? Freedom didn’t come free in this country. Your here because you people do not have the backbone to stand up and fight for your freedom. I pay too much for health care and every day friends of mine employed at Hospitals tell me about another child born to Mexican Nationals with out papers. All the while my health insurance skyrockets. May I suggest you immigrate to France, you will be welcome there I am sure. If not, may I suggest you pick up a rifle and defend yourselves and your country

I live near the Border in El Paso , Texas. The fellows with the sheriff’s dept. and our local
police dept. have told me we really need the ARMY on the border. I don’t understand why
the media chooses not to focus on the problem !

For some unknown reason the media is not interested in the truth. The people crossing our
border are here either for welfare or to steal , except for those running drugs.

They have ruined our hospitals and our schools. They don’t carry auto insurance so if they
are involved in an accident they run back to Mexico.

We need help !!!

The reason there will never be a resolution to this crisis is that the vast majority of illegals not just Mexicans, vote democrat. The size of that electorate keeps the likes of Kennedy and Pelosi and
Hairy Reed in office. They pander to the something for nothing crowd which is why we are close to having 50% of the workers in this country that pay NO TAXES. That is a crime but as long as Americans want someone else to foot the bill the democrats will oblige by turning their head! Whatever happened to individual responsibility?

Isn’t there a book out there called..
Without A Single Shot … my husband was telling me about it.

They taking over without a single shot ~ they do say “it’s their land”… doncha know.

ACLU is really the IACLU

Illegal Alien Civil Liberty Union.

Just a little note from Boston here. We are so over run with illegals that several stops on the Blue Line subway are in Spanish only- no English! East Boston used to be Italian but is now strictly Hispanic and I would dare anyone to try to find one sign in English. We joke about taking our Passports to East Boston. You can thank your local liberals and their “sanctuary cities” for helping create this crisis. Just a note: the Gov. of Mass., Deval Patrick, is now trying to pass legislation allowing illegal aliens to pay reduced rates for college tuition, ie, resident rates. Outrageous!

Janis….actually the idea would prevent another 20 to 30 million from coming across the border. These are speculated numbers if there is a collapse of the Mexican economy (which may happen if present conditions persist) then these people would flee north to the US.

ADAM-

HOW LONG DO YOU THINK IT IS GOING TO TAKE FOR THE DRUG CARTELS TO START KILLING BORDER AGENTS AND TAKING THEIR UNIFORMS FOR A WAY TO COVER THEIR ACTIVITIES AT NIGHT ?

Comment by Junesse
January 11th, 2008 at 2:31 pm

Great post!

Well, I am going to homeschool my little one…
our public schools are sooo dumbed down for the non English speaking kids….. here in LV over 55% of the kids in our public schools are Hispanic and from what I’m hear, most of that 55% does not speak English…

so..
I will be sure my son gets the best education and religious upbringing. He will say the Pledge using God’s name in it.

John:”He also said that RUMOR by some Mexican government officials that he has spoken with are saying that the US and Mexican governments are aware of the impending problems and are working on a scenario where Mexico would become a commonwealth of the US.”

That is a ludicrous idea. The last thing this country needs is another 20-30 million illiterate heavy breeders coming in with no marketable skills, and no desire to assimilate; just like the majority of the previous 30 million and their offspring.

Terri,

You are not misinformed. I have personally cashed welfare checks to people that I know to be illegal aliens. As far as the health care issue goes. I had a friend that worked the emergency room at LA County General and you are right again. They have to receive medical treatment, they cannot be denied. Most of them have no “permanent” address for bills to be sent and so on.
Even IF they didn’t get the childbirth itself for free (which they do) they have a legal, US citizen living in their home now that is entitled to an education on our soil, paid for by the taxpayers…again…FREE to them. Just imagine the headlines if you try to now deport these parents whose child is attending school in our country.
I have seen personal examples of this myself. Anyone who wants to say that you are misinformed is either believing the wrong person or reading some seriously incorrect statistics.

Adam

I disagree that you can’t deport them.. I understand what you are saying but as long as we allow our own laws to protect them then we will never be successful.

1. CONGRESS NEEDS TO STICK WITH THE READ ID PROGRAM. MAY TAKE A FEW YEARS BUT NO ID NO JOB.

2. WE NEED TO STOP ALL THE LAWSUITS FILED BY THE ACLU THAT ARE DRAGGGING THIS PROCESS OUT. DO WE NOT REALISE THAT THE ACLU IS USING OUR LAWS AS THE SWORD TO KILL US WITH.

3. INSTEAD OF SENDING OUR TROOPS TO IRAQ AND SECURING THEIR BORDERS WE REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT THE HOMEFRONT AND REALISE WE ARE UNDER ATTACK JUST AS ANY OTHER NATION IN THE MIDDLEEAST.

4. CONGRESS NEEDS TO PASS A SECURITY BILL THAT NOT ONLY WOULD DETER ACLU FROM LAWSUITS BUT LOCAL GOVT’S FROM STOPPING THE FEDERAL GOVT. FROM ENFORCING THE LAWS… HIT THEM WHERE IT COUNTS IN THEIR FEDERAL BUDGETS.

THE MINUTE WE DECIDE WE ARE DEFEATED …THEN WE WILL BE….THERE ARE MANY WAYS TO FORCE ILLEGALS TO GO HOME BUT BY SPEAKING OUT AND SAYING THIS SUDDENLY WE ARE HATERS….I PERSONALLY DON’T WANT TO BE SITTING ON ANOTHER PLANE AND HAVE IT GROUNDED BEFORE FLIGHT SO I CAN FIND OUT AGAIN THAT WE WERE ATTACKED…THIS TOPIC MAKES ME SICK SIMPLY BECAUSE WE ARE SO WORRIED ABOUT EVERYONE ELSES “HUMAN RIGHTS” WE FORGET THAT ALL IT TAKES IT ONE PERSON TO SNEAK ACROSS OR ONE PERSON TO GET PISSED AND GET IN THIS COUNTRY AND WHERE WILL WE BE THEN….SAYING…..I WISH?

I AM WILLING TO OPEN MY LIFE TO THE GOVT. TO ENSURE OUR COUNTRIES SAFETY. MAYBE NOT EVERYONE FEELS THIS WAY BUT I REALLY THINK THEY HAVE BETTER THINGS TO DO THEN WATCH AND TRACK MY BORING LIFE.

Comment by Rod Venger
January 11th, 2008 at 3:44 am

Rod –
Illegal is illegal. You are right. All I’m saying is having dealt with many government offices myself I have no respect for the bureaucratic BS that over complicates the most simple of processes. If candidates were screened and the “worthy” ones were allowed to immigrate legally and quickly, then logically the illegals would be the bad people that couldn’t pass the screening and then no one would complain about having them deported. As for illegals getting health benefits, welfare, etc. once again another bureaucratic mess that should never have happened.

I know, it’s pathetic. I work for a repair shop and I see people that constantly have to pay because they’re hit by the uninsured illegals (and uninsured period). We’d never be able to get away with it. I didnt have my insurance card with me one night and the ‘nice’ officer threatened to tow my vehicle before I had my husband drive to meet me with the insurance card.

Forgot to mention earlier, a friend of mine was in an accident with 3 gentlemen. One had proof of insurance, one had a green card, and one had a valid driver’s license….they combined all the info and handed it to the officer and they let them go. She never saw a dime and her insurance went up!!

I dont know how the discussion went from border partol being attacked to uninsured illegals….haha

Nic, AL

The border paatrol guys in jail had their trial…like it or not on the decision that is the system…making Mexico a territory like PR is a horrible idea. That country is so screwed up and currupt that any country would be crazy to want any affiliation with them. All they do is take take take from the USA economy and give nothing back except to take jobs away from Americans. The illegals should all be rounded up by any means possible and deported asap. If the parents aren’t American citizens then the child shouldn’t be granted it either (law needs to be changed). That country offers the USA nothing but more trouble and crime. We need to build a big fence and electrify it like around US prisons and Government bases. If the illegals attack our border patrol guards they should retaliate in like kind and measure. This is our country the USA and not the mexicans or the canadiens or any other NON US citizens to demand entry into….

Jen…i had waited for that also, but you pretty much did say it all! *S*

Just thought I’d chime in. I’m in AZ, like Susan, but further south. Illigal immigration causes myriad problems down here, but so many people are afraid to say anything because if they do they are immediately labeled as racist. Sometimes that’s the case, but not always. Saying that it’s too hard to get here legally is disingenuous. Many people do it all of the time. No, it’s not easy, but nothing that is important is easy. My father and my mother-in-law are both naturalized citizens; my family should know. Why should proximity mean that illegals from Mexico should get an automatic exemption or “jump the line” when it comes to coming to the US? That’s one of the things that really annoys people who follow the rules, swear to uphold the constitution and become contributing members of our society.

A number of the people coming over are hard-working folk who just want a better life for themselves, that I do not doubt. Having lived in a latin American country for two years, I can understand why and I can sympathize. But if a person comes here illegally, it already sets up a mind set that shows a disregard for our laws and lawful behavior that our country asks of its residents. With the tightening of border corridors, more illegals are making deals with “coyotes” who say they will transport them across safely. Unfortunately many of these coyotes are tied in w/the drug cartels who either lessen their fees or make it a condition of their crossing to transport drugs as well, escalating the slide into antisocial and criminal behavior.

Part of the mindset that causes illegals from Mexico and Latin America to be more liable to engage in criminal behavior is cultural. Corruption and graft is a way of life, which dates back to the colonial era. The Conquistadors were often very minor or illigetimate offspring of nobility who came over to get as much as they could and set themselves up as they “deserved”. Unlike our founding fathers who fled religious persecution and then tried to set up a government that prevented others from being presecuted for their religious beliefs, many of these people perpetuated systems they felt treated them unfairly and even exacerbated the problem. To this day there are the very wealthy families and there is “everybody else” in these countries. Most of the wealthy can trace their lineage back to Europeans and there is still alot of classism and predjudice based on ancestry and skin color or “indio” blood. Culturally, corruption, grafts and bribes are seen as “victimless” crimes and the family is everything, superceding law and government. Again, setting up an attitude that lends itself for the disregard of law abiding behavior. What’s sad is that these are the very people who would form the basis of a revolution if they stayed in Mexico to try and effect change - which is one of the many reasons why their government has no interest in stopping the flow of illegals.

For those of you who cite religious understanding for those who are disadvantaged, remember that Jesus also said, “give unto Ceasar what is Ceasar’s”. This in response to Pharises who were trying to get him to speak out against the law of Rome. Helping the poor doesn’t mean you have to help them break the law.

One of the things that really bugs me about illegal immigrants is what it does to the school system. Here are some links to articles about kids crossing the border to take advantage of our free education w/out paying anything into the system.
http://www.tucsonweekly.com/gbase/Currents/Content?oid=oid%3A55689
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22454322/
The law says that you have to allow illegals to go to school here. But these kids aren’t even residents! We recently had a case where a high school student was caught posessing drugs and, when the school found he was illegal as well, turned him over to the police and immigration. The students marched in protest and now the school system said they won’t call the police. Is that ridiculous, or what?

The one thing that I really get upset about is business. The bottom line - they wouldn’t come if there wasn’t work available. And I am really suspicious that our government has no interest in solving the problem - if they weren’t illegal they couldn’t be as easily exploited.

John-

No real spirited debate on your WWJD question from this morning.
Maybe my answer covered it all. Ha!
Or they are all sitting like obedient dogs.

Jen…maybe he’s still “playing” target practice.

Adam is really missing in action. He must have really bad reception like he said yesterday, or he went too far over the border.

Jen S…
that is funny! It does seem odd that Glenn is on CNN, doesn’t it??

Wow awesome story line you guys have going on here. I’ve been lurking while working.
Now if we could figure out how to scream it from the front doors of courthouses to be heard!
Its odd, this is one story that cant be “debated”, everyone pretty much agrees that we have a serious problem, and its growing by the hour.

That congress raise thing always p*sses me off! They have done nothing but act like 5 yr olds, bickering back and forth. Those that are barely making it can’t get a raise, why should these people?

Terri
BTW I never put Glenn Beck in CNN catagory becasue he’s on a different channel here than Larry King - stupid. I watch him but not as religiously as you.

Kristin,
I got to thinking…
We testified before the legislators and I did mention the whole baby of illegal deal … in regards to healthcare benefits…

someone in Carson City got up and said that we were misinformed and it was not true … which I’m NOT misinformed … it IS true.. anyone can go ask a social worker or healhcare worker…

heck.. even a Senator that I speak with, knows it’s true…

it’s almost like our leaders don’t want the general public to know how it really is.

Kristin-

Glenn Beck is a good thing.

Kristen… Glenn Beck and Lou Dobbs are doing a great job in keeping us informed. Not only illegals, but other very serious matters. I DVR both shows so that we don’t ever miss.

Karen T,

Good points. What you said about the laws, our government not listening, those are all valid. The only difference I can see is that there seems to be an outcry that people are truly upset about illegal immigration. What I don’t see is a common direction on what needs to be done. If there was one group that people could put their effort towards, one voice out there getting the media coverage, the opportunities to plead their cases to the lawmakers, that might help.
It seems that there are tons of stories of injustices out there, but I would like to see one very united, big front. It is possible that there is one out there and I just haven’t seen it. I have seen hispanic lawyers and community activists coming publically the aid of illegals when they are in a bind, who comes to the aid of the legal citizens?
Example: If we had one organization that was national like, “US Citizens for Legal Immigration” and every time that someone’s child or husband or mother were killed, raped, assaulted by an illegal alien, they were right there tending to the victim and callling press conferences, it wouldn’t be long before it would be noticed. Just an idea.

I hate to do this, but I watch Glenn Beck whenever possible and I wish to the good Lord that he was on Fox. He brings a lot of these little cases up on his show and I really appreciate the media coverage from him.

Exactly, Karen and Kristin~

Why won’t our Government DO SOMETHING? In my circle..we discuss this, and we just don’t get it? Our politicians should work for US… the American public… not people that are in this country illegally.

We pay their salary. I feel they are betraying us in so many ways.

You can put it away in the back of your mind Terri, I hope the danger that Adam is seeing at the border will not cross over to our side and turn the lives of other Americans upside down.

Terri,

You and your husband are the perfect example of why illegal immigration is a problem and why it isn’t working.

We have a two income family and we are going broke over taxes, health care premiums, medicines, all the things that come with home ownership…doesn’t seem right.

I don’t think we are speaking loud enough to our government. And if we are, then they’re not listening and will continue to go about what they want to do.

When Lacy Peterson was killed, her mom was able to get a law passed pretty quickly that said if you murder a pregnant woman, you will be charged with 2 murders.

When Jessica Lunsford was killed, her dad was able to get Jessica’s Law passed pretty quickly that increases penalties for pedophiles.

Why can’t a law be passed when a US Citizen gets killed or raped by an illegal that says they need to be deported once caught. Or when they get caught with drugs the law should read that they get deported immediately, as to reduce the risk of the drugs filtering down to our children.

And why should this even have to lobbied? Our safety and well being should come first, at least before they get their pay increase.

After reading some of these posts ….

they remind me of the fact that healthcare workers used to tell us that it was a shame that we weren’t illegal (when we had ran out of health insurance for the baby) …. because had our baby been born to an illegal … he would have been eligible for full medical benefits by Medicaid…

we of course, didn’t qualify b/c we “earned too much” (trust me, no one earns too much when it comes to paying medical expenses like ours were) … and here my husband is a born American, tax paying, Gulf War Vet and a PO that puts his life on the line every single day.

The whole thing would be kind of funny if it weren’t the truth.
I will always be upset over that fact… but it is a raw nerve.

My husband would be ever so happy if I could just drop it and let it go.

He reminds me that it is not Christian to be bitter… so I do pray that I wil get over it.

Terri… that’s got to be frustrating! There was a case last year where an illegal brutally raped a young girl, they let him out and he raped again, but this time killed the girls.

If one of us was the person that ran into your husband, we would not have gotten away with any of it. Just not fair.

John, you have GOT TO BE KIDDING ME…
our do nothing Congress got a raise???????????????????? Geez Louise.

Nic-Al,

That is a pathetic story. I agree with you and I am frankly sick of it. We had an illegal alien kill a passenger in her car when she was intoxicated and actually drove through a store front. After the accident it was discovered that she had been collecting welfare money illegally. This was only this past summer and to the best of my knowledge she is already out of jail. She was not deported and her “sentence” was basically a slap on the hand. There don’t seem to be any clear cut procedures on dealing with these situations and so they will continue to escalate. The passenger was also an illegal alien. I think she was ordered to pay back the money, but how do they ever expect to collect if she has no job and her fiance doesn’t “officially” collect a pay check? Its like a never ending cycle of garbage. I would like to think that my status as a legal US citizen gave me some form of protection against those that are here illegally, but I don’t believe that at this point.

Nic-Al,

I was part of that program for awhile and thought it was a worthwhile endeavor. I only had to alert them once, when I saw a group coming across the river at night. The trouble is the feed was so slow to update, overloaded maybe, that I probably missed many others. I believe it’s going to come back online soon if it hasn’t already. -Rod-

That was a real kick in the butt John! That’s not right, they’re not doing a good job. That’s just rewarding them for doing nothing.

Have you noticed how quiet Nancy Palosi and Harry Reid have been lately?

John.. you big sillly!!! You crack me up.

Yep, my husband is a police officer even … was rear ended (at a red light) while on duty … by a drunk illegal alien that tried to flee … no car insurance or license of course…

hubby had to go to ER blah blah blah … smashed up vehicle….he’s okay and all … but guess who pays?? US!

nothing happend to the illegal … never even went to court…

I never gave illegal immigration much thought … it bugged me and all in the past …

but it wasn’t until our ordeal spending 6 months in the hospitals … and seeing the kind of things I saw in regards to healthcare, that I really started to have major fits.
I wanted to scream.

Your point is valid to complain about Nic-AL … Aren’t there States where the officials are telling the police officers to do nothing when they stop or arrest an illegal immigrant and the reasons are that it’s not their job to enforce illegal immigration or they don’t have the funds to do so?

But they’re putting them right back into our communities to commit more crimes. Whatever cost it was to arrest them the first time, the cost just doubles the second time. If the Federal Governement had control they would send the money to the states, have a Standardized process and eliminate the chance that State Officials or State Court Judges would enforce their own personal opinions.

This border issue is something that is affecting us Nationwide, not just State by State. Federal should be in control.

Nic-Al is right… we would never be able to get away with what happened in that incident! It seems more like the illegal immigrants have more control than we do. They’re even contolling our government at all levels.

Karen T………..watch you blood pressure but here’s the link to their pay raise http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,321445,00.html?sPage=fnc.politics/house