LDG–

The first link — I read some article similar to that– and after I posted my questions, I found the same link as to the second you posted–

and thanks!

John: Yeah, Wyoming and DC have about the same population; Wyoming has almost no restrictions ongun ownership; Average murders per year in DC are over 300, in Wyoming, 12.

In the UK we have strict gun laws, and the murder rate is rising, each time they bring in an anti-gun law the rate grows faster.

South Africa has some of the strictest gun laws. They are very effective, almost no-gun crime. But they have one of the highest murder rates in the world. People use clubs to brain eachother instead.

follow-up:

Please be careful not to confuse the Permanent Mission (of any nation) to UN Geneva with their Permanent Mission to the UN at New York. Two different embassies.

Here’s the official website for the meeting:

http://www.un.org/NPT2010/SecondSession/

@Susan-AZ

Alireza Moayeri is the Islamic Republic of Iran’s Ambassador to the U.N. at Geneva.

Here’s the Tehran Times release on his appearance at NPT PrepCom 2008:

http://www.tehrantimes.com/index_View.asp?code=167550

LDG–

My question is who the heck is Ali-Reza Moayeri?

LDG- Is there a 2nd Preparatory Committee for the 2010 Review Conference of the Non-Proliferation-Treaty (NPT Prep Com)at the United Nations in Geneva going on right now?

Moayeri said that Washington was the pioneer of violating the NPT regulations by developing its own nuclear arsenal and providing Israel with technical and engineering expertise to go ahead with its weapons program. Moayeri

Ali -Reza Moayeri called on the Geneva meeting to follow up the cases of NPT violations by the nuclear states as its main agenda.

I ask because I read the Moayeri…. on a comment on some site– and I went to look it up-

nite Jen!!! sleep well! I was gone all afternoon and I think I am going to do lites out early as well–

xxxxx

Susan-
The best was Bill O was on Shep’s show–and talked about the interview first with him. You could tell he was pretty pumped that he got to do this interview and have her on Fox.
His interview with her was good, but I wanted him to quiz her more with some of her answers, but as he said, if he did, he probably wouldn’t have gotten to question #2. lol
it’s passed my bed time…….lites out.

Jen–

I just got home a bit ago– Missed the first O’ but there is him again in a bit– will have to see what Hillary had to say!

xxxx

Max…………You are right……..In Washington DC, it’s illegal to own a gun for anyone except law enforcement. You can’t even have a gun inside your own house unless it is non-functional. Not even unloaded guns are allowed. The police chief even suggested an anmesty period where people could call the police to come inside their homes and seize their guns………no questions asked…………….Many DC residents likened this idea to the Nazi tactics of the late 1930’s………..keep taking away the freedoms of people and they will soon be powerless. Very scary indeed. Luckily that idea has been snuffed out………..for now.
Anyway, with all the gun laws that have taken effect over the years, violent crimes have slowly been increasing within the city limits…………Seems like the criminals don’t abide by the gun laws………and, of course, find it easier to attack an unarmed public.

Derek: Cigars are supposed to be far better for you, the biggest problem is the chemicals used to make cigarette paper so thin, but still stiff. The data that shows the increase for lung cancer for cigarette smokers, show that cigar smokers have an increase within the margin of error.

Retread:

They demonize guns and their owners, create “gun free zones”…cost liberty restricted and NO decrease in violent crime.

corrected:

They demonize guns and their owners, create “gun free zones”…cost liberty restricted and increase in violent crime.

Sorry Susan–the Bill and Hillary show is tonight.

Retread

Amen

LDG-

I should have included you in the “does not play well with others” crowd.

But I do enjoy cigars, my smoking right now is limited to 2 minutes snuck here and there, so it would be tough to enjoy a rich flavorful cigar right now

@Retread

… *that* explains the unusual smell…

@All

ok, real work done for the night. I’m out for now. Be well and safe.
((departs))

LDG

It wasn’t me, blame Godzilla. I hear that he/it? has white turds so don’t eat the snow.

the text you are trying to post

@Susan-AZ

check the text for “Monten3gr0″ ’s.

@Retread

*Your* snow has melted… some sorry son-of-a- … heaved a bunch of snow over here from across the Pacific, knocking all the tree blossoms off and…

((grin))
/joking

welcome back!

what the…

LDG–

Will check out my email before I walk out the door here in about ten minutes–

xxxx

my last post did not go through either– grrrr!! and there were no links– expletives here!

@Susan-AZ

try disabling the link by putting spaces in the “http:” to make it look like this: “h t t p:”

THE SNOW HAS MELTED…MORE DUE ON FRIDAY…AL GORE IS A STUPID A@#H@LE!!

First they demonize DDT… cost 50 million dead (on junk science)

They demonize oil… cost $120 a barrel and climbing

They demonize American built autos… cost thousands of American jobs

They demonize guns and their owners, create “gun free zones”…cost liberty restricted and NO decrease in violent crime.

They demonize cigarettes…cost $4 to $9 a pack, a regressive tax on the workng poor and no extra money to states for ‘healthcare’ for the avg. American CITIZEN!!

When will America wake up?

@Derek

You want me to introduce you to my tobacconist? Get you off those paper-wrapped dried-tobacco cancer sticks and back on proper cigars?

Derek-

patty…

we have a reserved seat for you in the corner…me susan and john welcome you to the “does not play well …

It sure is a cool club– a lot of work!

I have been trying to post for the last fifteen minutes about the US terror report citing Venezuela and Iran….. grrrrr!!!!!

@Susan-AZ

personal note: replied to your last e-mail. please see that. thank you.

test-

links not going through

patty-

At this point, I would buy from UBL, of course then I would chop off his head, but first I would buy my cheap smokes.

Iraq was beautiful in this area, you could buy them from the PX for 26 bucks a carton or from the kid on the side of the road for 10 bucks a carton.

@Derek

Douglas Farah on the subject of tobacco smuggling and various terrorist/narcoterrorists:

http://www.douglasfarah.com/article/342/cigarettes-and-the-criminal-terrorist-nexus.com

interesting note: he first wrote about this *10 years ago* in a piece for the WaPo.

*blowing smoke at derek*

take a deep breath buddy….tomorrow is a better day!
btw: Im not unpatriotic…i buy from the indians…no tax! *L*

patty…

we have a reserved seat for you in the corner…me susan and john welcome you to the “does not play well with others” club. We spend lots of time contemplating our missteps, carving our names into the desks, shooting spitwads at adam, and plotting our future overthrow of the “man”.

On to another note, according to our latest and greatest intelligence, the taliban has opened up shop in the black market here….so if you refuse to buy the overtaxed cigarettes, and instead purchase them from your local taliban leader that will give you a carton in exchange for surface to air missiles, well, you are just unpatriotic.

Actually I am proposing a modern day boston tea party, we can break into the cigarette plants and start dumping them into wheel-barrows, of course instead of dumping them in the harbor, we can wheel them to the pier (the last legal place for me to smoke) and I will dispose of them. Of course you all are invited.

9 bucks a back in new york because of the taxes and they say the black market is the terrorists…I gotta call BS here, and tell the government to look in the mirror, if they want to find the true radicals on this subject.

yeah quitting smoking is going GREAT

Colombia says it has killed cocaine kingpin-

BOGOTA, Colombia (CNN) — Colombian police have killed a drug trafficker who the government says is the most sought-after fugitive outside the country’s rebel leaders.

Victor Manuel Mejia Munera was a drug lord with ties to paramilitary groups, the Colombian government says.

Victor Manuel Mejia Munera and two bodyguards were killed Tuesday when police tracked them down on a farm in the northwestern province of Antioquia, according to a statement on the Colombian presidency Web site.

Three people also were arrested, according to the statement.

Mejia Munera was wearing an American-style, desert-camouflage uniform when he was killed, said Colombian Defense Minister Juan Manuel Santos. Mejia Munera also had short- and long-range weapons with ammunition, the presidential statement said.

“This is a great strike of the Public Force against the criminal structures of the country,” Santos said, warning that drug traffickers who do not turn themselves over to the government will “end up in the jail or in a tomb.”

In terms of the country’s most-wanted list, Mejia Munera was one of Colombia’s most sought-after criminals and ranked just below the leaders of Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia, the statement said.

The leftist guerilla group, which goes by its Spanish acronym FARC, holds about 750 hostages in the jungles of Colombia and has justified hostage-taking as a legitimate military tactic in a long-running civil war involving government forces, drug traffickers and right-wing paramilitaries.

Mejia Munera is not alleged to have ties to FARC, but he had been involved with a right-wing paramilitary group known as United Self-Defense Forces of Colombia, according to the U.S. State Department.

Mejia Munera and his brother, Miguel Angel Mejia Munera, known as “Los Mellizos,” or “the Twins,” have been accused of running major drug rings in Colombia. The brothers also have faced narcotics-trafficking charges in the United States.

Santos initially told reporters that police had killed Miguel Angel Mejia Munera. The Colombian presidency later said the slain drug lord was actually Victor Manuel Mejia Munera.

Fingerprints confirmed that the dead man was Victor Mejia Munera, Colombian-based Caracol Radio reported. The brothers sometimes exchanged identities, the radio station said, and identity documents belonging to Miguel Mejia Munera were found near Victor Mejia Munera.

In 2004, the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia indicted the twins on narcotics-trafficking charges.

The U.S. Justice Department at one point offered a $5 million reward for “true and effective information” on the whereabouts of a dozen suspects it wanted extradited to the United States.

One of the 12 men wanted was Miguel Mejia Munera. The State Department said Wednesday there was no reward for Victor Mejia Munera.

The U.S. Treasury Department’s Office of Foreign Assets Control reported that the brothers have been involved in narcotics trafficking since the early 1990s, when they were guarding ships carrying cocaine from western Colombia to Mexico.

“Over time,” OFAC said in a news release last year, the brothers “rose through the ranks to lead their own narcotics trafficking organization.”

“Recent reports indicate that Los Mellizos may be funding their own illegal armed groups to facilitate their narcotics trafficking activities,” the release said.

The Colombian prosecutor general’s office had indicted Victor Mejia Munera for his role in a 2004 paramilitary massacre of 11 farmers in Tame in the eastern Colombian province of Arauca, according to the State Department.

stupid? bitter?

*L*
just kidding!

Kansans.

Patty…….yeah, it would be like the farmers in Kansas only growing crops for the residents of the state. Doesn’t work……people in Maine, California, Hawaii etc want their wheat bagels and corn muffins just like the Kansasanders……Kansasanian……..what are people from Kansas called anyway?

John, late is right. We’ve had this conversation at work. Some say, if it were just for KS they would agree to it. Well DUH! That kind of thinking is how we got into some of these problems. Western KS is so sparsly populated. Use that ground for whatever energy needs you can get from it! The air quality is going to be better than driving through a large city with your window down! Or driving by the hog yards that are showing up by the dozens in our county. grrrrr People just don’t get it. Hell the air in our shop here is worse than what those plants are going to produce. The diesel exhaust in here is enough to make me move my desk outside some days or throw the windows and doors open when its below freezing!

Patty…….not only bad for Kansas, but the people of neighboring Colorado and Texas as well. IMO, it’s a little late in the game to be worrying about environmental impacts when it comes to energy production. The main thing now is to be able to meet demand at the lowest possible cost……….and to use our own resources for the production of our energy needs. Not rely on those from overseas.

*L* John…i was just reading about KS’s govenor….and was going to post this link re: demons/dragons.
http://www.cjonline.com/stories/043008/bre_coalfight.shtml

she’s been fighting this forever! (Although the posts that follow are usually pretty ignorant at this paper.) I personally think she’s making a huge mistake! And i do think it is political posturing, which s*cks for KS in general.

Wonder if she has lunch with Pelosi?

John: more like a Siren.

Max….regarding not seeing dragons, demons etc……….someone did bring up Pelosi

LDG:

smiling about being on the same wavelength. Also agree with you about Committee Reports and politicians who act only out of political expediency! Take care… off and running again.

Hi Susan and bye Susan. One of these days we’ll all be back here again to spend time (goodness, what is that? Time, I mean, a very limited commodity these days).

For some reason I’m in the “cut and paste” mood today, but here’s an interesting biography of Uribe. I didn’t know his dad was assisinated by FARC……..no wonder he hates them

h t t p://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%81lvaro_Uribe

Looks like wordpress is not liking wikipedia again……..delete the spaces between http and cut and paste……….

Oh wait, patty posted a link about Moses being on drugs. That was part of the demon question.
It was on the ‘Max & Me’ thread i think.

@Max

so says you… I’m looking into getting a couple Ibises, just to be sure.
((grin))

LDG: more likely with your questions than my ones. I doubt we’ll be hearing about anyone getting attacked by demons/vampires/dragons any time soon.

@Max

“…that story is like the one…” — funny how life sometimes provides us with coincidental events to make studies seem relevant, isn’t it?

@Susan-AZ

Hi (and bye?) Susan. At least with Pelosi you *know* whose side she is one (hers, not ours). The ones that scare me are the politicians that put their names on Committee Reports who likely never noticed whose side the staffer that wrote the thing are on.

Adam…totally off subject, but a question about the vineyard. IF you have time. Only because it is something i can understand!
What do you do with the weeds?
I know 2-4,D (cheapest general broadleaf killer) is deadly to grapes as most herbicides are (atleast the ones i deal with), so what do you use between the rows?
Surely it’s not all by hand is it?
Is spring as busy as fall harvest?
It is here, for our row crop farmers, but nothing like a vineyard around here.
We have a few grape growers but just in their garden. If our spray trucks even drive down the road they are calling yelling at me. Doesnt matter whether the truck was even spraying! *L*

@Marie, about yours of 12:37

hehheh, we were on the same thought about the U.S. Congress there… crossposted though.

Marie–

quick note here too–

I totally agree with you about Uribe– That dam* Pelosi I wish would just go away!!!

Have a good day all!

xxxx

@Marie

Good to see you there! Thank you for the WorldCheck link. It is good to see that matter out in the open now.

@John

“On a serious note, that President Uribe of Columbia does seem like a very good ally for the US to have in the region…”

It does seem so, given the trends. Would that someone would sit Pelosi down and explain the facts of things to her (probably best using small words, for her sake).

Things are not all going Chavez’ way politically, however. The Government of Peru, under President Alan Garcia, has (quietly) made it clear that they are not going to sit back passively and allow a Red Block to surround them. What would be a great success for quiet diplomacy would be movement toward a Peru-Colombia entente prepared to:

(1) prevent FARC and FARC NGO-front organizations from continuing to extend significant influence into northeast Peru.

(2) prepare for any “intramural” conflict in Ecuador, mostly to prevent Colombian intervention.

(3) provide a second voice, reasoned without being over-sympathetic, in the OAS to counter the ability of the pro-Chavez bloc to seize the microphone and media attention there.

(4) and if the day ever comes that the FARC can be dismantled as a territorial presence within Colombia, to make sure the bums have to run out through Venezuela (or Ecuador if it remains on their side). Forcing the FARC to fight an external insurgency from only one border would be more than half the road to victory for Colombia.

Uribe is about the only ally we have and it would be stupid to piss him off … so, pressure Congress to approve the free trade agreement.

Patty……..Maybe that Swiss Chemist knew Moses……..he was almost old enough.

The only “religious experience” I’ve ever had when I had had too much fun was praying to the porcelain goddess down the hall.

On a serious note, that President Uribe of Columbia does seem like a very good ally for the US to have in the region……..especially now, with all the crazy stuff going on down there.

John…i like that breitbart news link.
Stories you dont see everywhere else. Thanks!

btw:
If it was good enough for Moses….it’s should be good enough…….ya well…you understand.
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=080304120710.ad7gm7i6&show_article=1
I knew I was closer to the Higher Up in the ’70’s!!!

now, i gotta go earn my keep.
~Laters!

*sitting in the corner*……*pouting!*

*LOL*

John: that story is like the onw LDG wrote a question about the other day.
Hope someone uses the $5million reward to do some good.

Chalk one up for the good guys………

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=080430120900.mxjsb4h7&show_article=1&catnum=2

re:
Comment by Adam Housley
April 29th, 2008 at 6:13 pm
Patty-
you got me confused with Geraldo.

haha Adam, but the day you come close to a resemblance, I’M OUTA HERE and calling your mother!

‘morning Adam and All.

John….the swiss scientist….can you imagine the colorful “stories’ he could tell sitting around a camp fire!

Jumping in really late here and can’t linger but as to

LDGs point -If payments for the same are processed by financial institutions in Venezuela or Nicaragua…

will we ever know?

http://www.world-check.com/articles/2008/04/27/iran-seeking-purchase-latin-american-banks/

if they deal with their own banks, anything can be hidden, particularly if you don’t pay too much attention to international law.

All this could turn into quite a mess… which is exactly what they all want.

As to your last posting LDG about the blackout.

Greetings to All. (I’ll only be able to visit here a little today, sorry)

A bit of Venezuela news, from El Universal in English

http://english.eluniversal.com/2008/04/30/en_pol_art_major-blackout-hits_30A1547039.shtml

(me, paraphrasing a V-based weblog) Initial reports from VTV started with the usual propaganda blaming “the Empire” for this event, but no government ministers made any public claim other than simply reporting the facts of the blackout.

I see a story here where scientists have discovered a new species in the Brazilian savanah……..a legless lizard.
Hmmmmmm,…..I hate to burst their bubble of joy over their “new” discovery, but I believe we already have such an animal, and have had so for a long time……….it’s called a snake.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,353227,00.html

Sorry, wrong link above……….try this

http://www.latimes.com/news/science/la-me-hofmann30apr30,1,1718995.story?track=rss

And who says ‘drugs kill’? Not this guy, he lived to be 102…….

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=080430072424.1ze2rslh&show_article=1&catnum=1

OK, trying to get this thread out of digression……..

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=080430072424.1ze2rslh&show_article=1&catnum=1

Susan…………the drunken dentist story is funny (in a sad way)…….Maybe she mistook him when he said, “Open wide”,………or maybe he just simply tried to fill the wrong cavity.

John–

cool link– I checked out a few things– one of interest was a video of John Marco Allegro- The Maverick Of The Dead Sea Scrolls–

xxx

Looks like LDG, Derek, John, and socal had quite a conversation going on earlier-

Mr. O’ and I are on the same page about this issue about the valid ID for voting– Like he said, you have to have an ID to buy cigarettes– LOL

Jon Stewart interviewed Carter too– I switched the channel– the article John posted makes reference to Fox News as well!

That is a great article!!!!!!! well worth the read– thanks!! Glenn Beck had a guest on last week who brought up a couple of these points!

Have a good night– thanks for the link– I am LOL’ing over here!

John–

that is a fun link– there is an article about a professional panhandler pretending to be homeless!

One more, then it’s bedtime………Good article (commentary) about Jimmy Carter’s latest “peace making trip”……….

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=26234

Hey Susan, I’ll check out the drunken dentist story before I turn in…………I can always use a laugh before going to sleep………see you tomorrow.

On Fox and Friends this morning, they interviewed the guy who gave his son Mike’s Hard Lemonade by accident at a ball game– the dad thought this was regular lemonade– the article is on your link-

http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=86313

Brian asked Steve if he has ever given his kids any liquor by accident- and Steve said, “not by accident.”

Hey John–

did you check the article out on the right of your link? Drunken dentist denies doing karate chop on his wife?

And I agree with you John– Send that article to Reverand Wright!

He was barely in the House when the first Gulf took place–

To Adam-

Comment by Adam Housley
April 29th, 2008 at 1:49 pm
Congressman Frank Riggs

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We were way off– Jen gave his name we guessed in the last thread– Hatfield— all these months we thought we had found the answer!! dang!!! He wanted to run here—

Jen check out where he was born-

Frank D. Riggs (born September 5, 1950) is a politician from the states of California and Arizona.

Riggs was born in Louisville, Kentucky, and he served in the United States Army from 1972 to 1975. Riggs worked as a police officer and in real estate. He was elected to the House of Representatives as a Republican in 1990.

Riggs voted against the Gulf War resolution and, as a member of the Gang of Seven, a group of newly-minted, idealistic congressmen, favored revealing the Congressmen who made overdrafts at the House Bank… .

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None of us even came up with that name!!!

Here’s a positive article about the US and what we do for those that are not as fortunate as us. IMO, these stories should be headline news………world wide. Let people know that even with all our problems and differences………we still care.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=080430011119.ugttc2yf&show_article=1&catnum=2

I can see Avi now on his first “joy ride” back in Israel………Blasting through the barriers and getting lost on the Gaza Strip. It will resemble the shopping mall chase scene from Animal House.

I guess Hillary will be no spinning tomorrow night– her debut! LOL

http://gasbuddy.com/

You can check out where the gas prices are lower in your area– if you haven’t seen this-

I must have missed Hillary on O’s tonight because I left for a few minutes and I didn’t catch her while I watched–

I am sick of Rev. Wright– you can’t turn anywhere without his name coming up– what kind of God’s man is he anyway? Multi-millionare dollar house — living off the fat of the land and he puts this country down- Leave!!! My hugs to Mr. O’ and Brian Kilmeade from Fox and Friends about the Wright issue– Boy was Brian heated this morning about oil prices and Rev. Wright- Brian’s opinion about oil– we have it here, drill for it!

And this thing about the fuss of people showing proper ID to vote– hello—– you have to show proper ID for everything else– why not voting? What are you hiding? Ridiculous!!!! To register Ken for school, I had to bring in all sorts of ID’s– Makes me feel safer the person casting the ballot is that person! Sad to think how dishonest people ruin it for the honest ones!

Oh Lord– Avi is getting his license!!!

Oh yeah, i fogot this:

A London judge in March lifted a freeze on 12 billion dollars in global assets of Venezuela’s state-run oil company PDVSA ExxonMobil had requested as compensation for a Venezuelan 2006 law forcing foreign oil companies to give PDVSA at least a 60 percent share in their operations at oil fields in the Orinoco basin.

Ugh, is it just me or does it seem like that Judge had a left wing bias? (Anti-oil companies, anti-American). I don’t know all the facts, but i don’t see why the freeze should have been lifted. All i can see is that it helps give the Venezulan government a more money so they can keep their hold for longer.